Season 5 Episodes 47 & 48 of the Chasing MacNaughton Podcast from Tech Hockey Guide; Dripping Walls and Yakety Sax. This week, Tim Braun, Dustin Lindstrom, Rob Gilreath and Matt Cavender were joined by Jared Rubado of the Bemidji Pioneer. In this episode they discussed the semifinal game between Michigan Tech and Minnesota State, broomball at Michigan Tech, the semifinal game between Bemidji State and Lake Superior State and the pairwise possibilities for the winner of the CCHA conference tournament.

Crazy Train

The guys talked about Michigan Tech and Minnesota State semifinal game and all of the craziness it entailed. Tim talked about Michigan Tech not quitting during the game and Rob talked about the snipe goals that Minnesota State scored. A large portion of the conversation revolved around the goal that Jack Works scored and whether it was a ‘kicking motion’ goal or not. The guys discussed the inclusion of the word “propelled” in the rule and argued about the difference between a redirection and propelling. Jared talked about Minnesota State fans needing to realize that the goal ultimately didn’t cost them the game. The guys also talked about the late covering the puck in the crease call against Minnesota State and the subsequent penalty shot for Michigan Tech. Tim thought it looked intentional and the guys discussed the theory of why Minnesota State didn’t challenge the call.

The guys also brought up the officiating from the Michigan Tech/Minnesota State game. Tim talked about the officials being human and making errors. Later in the show, the guys talked about fans needing to reign in the trashing of the officials after games. They talked about the officials pairings changing between the quarterfinal and semifinal games and Jared talked about having to trust the CCHA that they provided the best officials available to them.

The guys also talked about the goal that gave Michigan Tech the lead with 9.5 seconds remaining in the game. Rob had no idea the puck went into the net since he was on the opposite side of the arena. The guys talked about their confidence level had the puck not gone in the and the game went to overtime. Tim thought that Tech would have had the momentum and Jared thought that it would have been a coin flip because Minnesota State would have had time to regroup during the intermission.


The guys spent a few minutes explaining Michigan Tech style broomball to Jared and how it differs from the standard form of broomball. They explained the equipment used, the outdoor rinks and different checking rules.

The battle of two not-states

The guys discussed the semifinal game between Bemidji State and Lake Superior State. Jared talked about Bemidji State struggling during the first period in recent games. He also talked about Bemidji State caving to Lake Superior State’s play style. Rob hoped that there would be late game shenanigans from Lake Superior State. Jared had no complaints about the officiating during the game and also talked about the long bus trips Lake Superior State had back and forth between Minnesota both weekends.

National Tournament

Towards the end of the episodes, the guys discussed the upcoming national tournament. The conversation started with the guys looking at the pairwise possibilities for the CCHA tournament winner and who their opponent may be. There were some unlikely scenarios they brought up in the event that some of the #1 seeds get shuffled around or there are five NCHC teams in the tournament.

There was a debate on how to change the format of the national tournament to make it better for the teams, fans and venues. The guys discussed the possibility of home team regionals where the top seeds host the regional at their school. Matt thought that there were many institutions who could not support a regional weekend, such as Ferris State or Western Michigan. Tim and Dustin floated their idea where groups of teams would bid to host, and the top seed from that group was guaranteed to play at the hosting venue. They thought that would solve the problem of attendance because there would always be a “local” team playing at the host site, and it eliminated the need for a gap weekend between regionals and finals weekend.

Cut for time

This week’s cut time for Patrons is approximately 8 minutes long. The guys looked at the Works goal and there was extended conversation on whether it was a good goal or not. Tim misremembered Don Lucia talking about skill plays when he was on the podcast previously.

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